女友不願上床. 該分手?
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watchout
<br>just over 3 years, u?
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christian,
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<br>Approximately 19 years already....
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watchout,
<br>Really nice to meet u. Do u have email?
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Hey buddy, I strongly respect your religion, but you have to respect my ideology and sexual desires as well. I am just an ordinary man who loves sex. For me, it is not a sin at all. It is the purest form of love expression. Damn it. I don't want to give her up yet, but I can hardly control my lust for sex. Furthermore, I am just graduated from U and I am still looking for a jobs. There is no way I will marry her in the near future for god's sake. Am I willing to wait?I think I really need to consult with a psychologist on this matter since I don't want to masturbate for the next five years. At the same time, she is my soul mate and the love of my life. I don't want to hurt her again by making any outragous sexual demand or being unfateful! What shall I do?
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christian,
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<br>yes i do...but it is not good to disclose it here...you can email me via my she.com email....
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以前既人類廿五歲結婚已經好遲，所以傳統道德上既 "婚前不應有性行為" 仲勉強站得住腳，因為太細既唔應該有性行為，過左廿歲既忍幾年都已經結婚，所以都無乜所謂。
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<br>但廿一世紀既今日，早過廿五歲結婚既人少之有少 (多數都係學歷低，早出社會做野，或者屋企極富有，想早 d 抱孫既人）一般女仔都去到廿七過後甚至越來越多過左 30 先結婚既人。
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<br>人類性能力或者生育能力最佳既時間係 around 25 歲，過左後其實 physically 係走緊下坡。要一對互戀互愛既男女係精力最旺盛既時候唔做愛，去到結左婚後身體各方面已經開始走緊下坡時先開始做，我覺得係好唔人道既做法。
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<br>好多人之所以反對婚前性行為係因為佢地好主觀地認為反對婚前性行=淫亂。佢地覺得人類係無結婚約束下進行左一次性行為後，會忍唔住繼續同唔同既其他人做愛。我覺得咁樣只會反映到佢地本身心入面對自己陰暗既思想。
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<br>以我所以，大把口口聲聲話婚前唔會發生性行為既男女 (其中以女性為多)，其實佢地都試過曬愛撫 (摸，巢)，口交，只不過係未真正入過。我覺得咁做有 d自欺欺人。 "我仲係處女呀" <-- 究竟係邊個程度上係呢？思想上？形式上？醫學上？ 個意義係唔係真係咁大呢？
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hahayou,
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<br>I understand that you are in a dilemma...but I don't think there is anything you can do other than waiting, waiting for yourself to convert...a christian and a non-christian is incompetible...
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拍拖三年都未上過床? 作為男人， 你真係忍得，又夠偉大．我若是你，早於兩年半前換女友了．不肯同你上床，同信什麼教無關．應該說，她對你未夠信心，認為你未合心意．
<br>是時侯去多交幾個女友了．但你也無需同佢分手，吊住佢咯．
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typo...I meant "incompatitble"
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U should really cherish ur gf, please dun give her up. Marriage can be of a simple fomrality so I dun see any conflicts between u looking for a job and ur marraige. As u said she is the love of ur life, be patient for a bit more and plan for ur marraige.
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<br>watchout,
<br>ok thx.
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christian,
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<br>I have to run now, see ya :)
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You should find a SL or SP.
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我覺得佢應該再同你一齊, 你d咁既人, 口口聲聲話愛, 咪又係自私.
<br>你有無從佢角度想呀??????????????
<br>d 咁既問題post 上網, 你諗如果比佢知道會點??????
<br>你唔係自私, 係好x自私
<br>反醒吓啦!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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我以為會有好多人 (尤其係女仔) 會破口大罵版主
<br>結果係好多女仔同情版主
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<br>真係得人驚 !!
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強烈建議:
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<br>出去溝女吧
<br>俾多個選擇自己,都時你就知道自己鐘意D乜野
<br>what 神棍 said is right,你條女可能唔係處,到你結婚果日你就做左傻仔
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<br>你條女最愛既係神,第二係自己,你唔知排第幾?
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<br>同其他女做下愛,你就明白其他女仔對你有幾好
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D基督徒正蔔街
<br>我之前條仔夠基督徒LA
<br>夠話咩婚前SEX唔得
<br>條蔔街咪又係忍唔住搞
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<br>我覺得條女唔愛你WO
<br>佢愛主GA MA!!
<br>大家如果冇信仰,想過正常生活既人都千其唔好同基督徒拍拖呀!!
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每個人既包容程度都唔同,
<br>覺得頂唔順就應該閃,你我都係凡人黎者
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呢度大把女仔~又靚又...HAHA
<br>不過你係咪好KAI GA?
<br>唔係點會同基督徒女一齊?
<br>果D女多數都唔靚唔掂仲乞人憎
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淼 replied 16 mins ago :
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<br>我以為會有好多人 (尤其係女仔) 會破口大罵版主
<br>結果係好多女仔同情版主
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<br>真係得人驚 !!
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<br>你真係相信喎d係女仔? 响web d人講野, 我真係唔係好信..
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我講真ga wo
<br>我真係好同情板主
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你真係相信喎d係女仔? 响web d人講野, 我真係唔係好信..
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<br>by Jo - 07/03/07 18:36
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<br>咁你都有你既道理 haha
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jo, 其次我覺得d人都係針對個女仔係"基督徒"
<br>基本上好多唔係信教既女仔都唔想有婚前性行為
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版主
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<br>基督徒係比較固執啲,但如果你真係好愛佢,你應該尊重佢嘅意願。性如果對你來說好重要,你可不將心思放在工作上,使到自己早些有經济能力和佢結婚?
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<br>或且暫時你亦可以找職業女性替你解决性需要。
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我覺得做人最緊要身心都健康..如果你女朋友覺得咁樣係健康都冇佢計..
<br>但係你唔同..你現在十分之唔健康..佢地好似連自慰都有罪..人人都知..不論男女..青春期或者更早就需要解決哩樣野架啦..如果你愛佢..你咪自己攪掂囉..去搵第個人解決就無謂啦..不過都冇人保證結婚後會點架..
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淼 replied 57 mins ago :
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<br>jo, 其次我覺得d人都係針對個女仔係"基督徒"
<br>基本上好多唔係信教既女仔都唔想有婚前性行為
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<br>淼, 同意. 另外, 我亦相信, 呢個topic可能勾起左部份人既"回憶".
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我唔係好正規既基督徒(即係冇返教會),但我都明白點解聖經叫我地唔好有緍前性行為. 我自己今年都30,係有性衝動,但會間中自慰,但唔會同男友做,同佢一齊會好小心,唔會比自己不受控制.呢個都係一個自我控制既段練.你可以用其他方式表示你對佢既愛咁麻!
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don't do anything that you'll be regret.
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<br>let say... you break up with your gf, and find another gf that can have sex with you (that can satisfy your recent needs), do u mind if she's not a virgin?
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其實每個人都有自己原則，佢唔可以，你就不斷話要，換個角度，佢都忍左你3年！佢知你唔啱佢，因為佢比唔到你想要既野你，但仲同你一齊，都係因為愛你！佢唔會同你，亦代表佢都唔會同第二個！你愛佢，就要尊重佢、同包容佢，你講到佢唔比，好似係佢錯咁！
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<br>其實無名文規定，拍拖一定要上床，係e家d人一廂情願既諗法。
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I think after so many diversed postings under your thread, you must be having BIG BIG HEADACHES!
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<br>I can imagine what kind of dilemma you are caught in and I do sympathise you a lot. Well, in my opinion, it's normal different people hold diff opinion in this world, as we are born different.
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<br>If I were you, the decision I make now, is to revert to my heart: how far do I love this lady? How important is it for me to lead a normal sexual life?
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<br>If my love outweighs my needs > stay w/ this relationship,
<br>if the importance of leading the life i want outweighs my love > leave
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<br>Even in the event u take the 2nd choice, don't think it's ur fault, just that diff persons have different perceptions & attitude towards life.
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<br>Think u've brought up a gd thread to invite people contemplating on religious diff in the face of relationships. For me, this is one of the reasons I don't prefer religious people as companion. I believe someone needs to lay out basic requirements in the pursuit of a long-term relationship in avoidance of critical disagreements.
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<br>Finally, all i can say is: good luck & take care.
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daisy 又話 send 個 msn 俾我？呃人o既。
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唔知d基督徒女仔結左婚之後會唔會勁想做好多次?
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<br>"其實無名文規定，拍拖一定要上床，係e家d人一廂情願既諗法。"
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<br>睇下拍咩拖啦...我黎講..拍拖得一種..就係全情投入@@..所以....
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If u really want to marry her as wife
<br>then take the suffering now
<br>and enjoy the fruits later,
<br>there is no need to be hurry
<br>becoz u and her still have the rest of ur life to spent together
<br>u two can sleep together in one bed every single nite after marriage
<br>keep ur faith, trust urself and belive in future!!!
<br>Add oil yo~~~
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我識過好多女基督徒都好賤,明明比過好多男人擒過,仲要好濫,咩都玩齊,但都周圍同d新識的男仔言談間暗示自己係處,反對婚前性行為.
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<br>我識過一個男人,同佢條女拍左8年以上,兩個都係基督徒,條女係都唔肯同佢做,話結婚後先可以,但係條仔個陣又成日認為會找到個更好既,所以遲遲都未結,但係佢地咩都玩齊啦,係差條野未入咁解,結果?條仔同左個大陸女同事搞野囉,同個大陸妹玩唔夠半年,見到ex已經有新男友,又唔能抵得,人唔黎爭佢唔黎搶,結果ex最後都冇揀佢,仲同新男友準備結婚!
<br>我見過個女仔同女仔的新男友,我認為條女已經比左新那個搞啦!有幾多人忍到唔搞??
<br>仲有,咩都搞齊曬但差個度未入,都仲要話自己係處,呢d人真係好多鳩餘
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睇下拍咩拖啦...我黎講..拍拖得一種..就係全情投入@@..所以....
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<br>by 235 - 07/04/07 03:01
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<br>如果你養隻狗都全情投入就好咯
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分手啦, 佢都唔愛你
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仲有,咩都搞齊曬但差個度未入,都仲要話自己係處,呢d人真係好多鳩餘
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<br>by ?? - 07/04/07 04:53
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<br>都未入咁都唔係處咩?!
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Hi,hahayou,您好,
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<br>小弟給您一些意見 和 分析！
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<br>首先，您女友沒做錯；她奉行信仰拒絕您是可理解的，
<br>如您因此理由與她分手，就是您的不對！
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如她認為這種親蜜行為應婚後才能接受，您應尊重她的意願，
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<br>可能她亦不肯定最終與她走進結婚禮堂的是否閣下，如您們真的相愛，請繼續愛她、尊重她 和
<br>等待那甜蜜溫馨浪漫歡暢的時刻揭幕 ~ 洞房花燭夜 :)
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您亦須知道，女生多數是要有愛才講性的，有別於我們男生可沒愛只尊注性的需要 和 發涉！
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<br>您明白愛是什麼嗎？
<br>您會用秤去衡量愛嗎？
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<br>愛有 深淺 和 多少之分！
<br>您必須讓她感受到 和 看到 _ 您所付出的比她多！
<br>令她感動 和 體會 真誠的愛 ^-^
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愛不是單用口講的！！
<br>如您可做到令她五官、心 和 腦 都感受到您對她真誠的愛，您會變成一個絕佳的戀人 或 丈夫。
<br>相信有90% 或以上機會 可共建美滿幸福生活，直至生命盡頭。
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<br>今天用心的灌溉，明天會有較好的收成：人心肉做阿 ~
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愛是：多樣性、錯綜複雜的情感表達。
<br>特別是男女之間 _ "戀人夫妻" 的愛。
<br>內�堨]含：尊重、真誠、專一、包容、寬恕、關心、勉勵、分享、優點、缺點、玲聽、坦白、浪漫、歡樂 和 分憂。
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再加現代的因素：抱負、遠見 和 自我增值！
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<br>以上各點，詩撫心自問，您能為她做到多少！
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以上各點，詩撫心自問，您能為她做到多少！
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你沒錯
<br>她也沒錯
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<br>大家的價值觀不同
<br>錯配沒幸福
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<br>不能片面說你不尊重她，你一直也沒有勉強她，已是尊重。
<br>反過來說，她也沒尊重你的意願，怎可說誰愛誰多點哩? 除非站在道德高地，把性看成罪惡，才可高声說你不夠愛她。
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<br>只是，我不讚成你說服佢。那你要 bare 很大的責任，你以後不能選擇第二個可能更合你的女孩。誰知哩? 你怎可 sure 她是你以後的唯一? 你還年青。 If you break up with her, and you have made her break her rule, she will hate you forever, you will scare her forever.
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<br>找過另一個更合你，有同價值觀的啦。
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<br>我的therapy工作會接觸很多人.....
<br>Case 1
<br>有位男仕, 婚前7 年沒與女友有性...嘩, 發達啦，娶個處女唷.....點知婚後一年都不能成功交合，之後的幾年，勉強做到，但女的一點那不 enjoy，還擺出一副拖捨給丈夫的態度，可說是冷感。她自覺自已一點問題也沒有，只是丈夫鹹濕。其實她不許婚前性行為，某程度上反映了一個根深蒂固的保守性態度。
<br>Case 2
<br>有位中年女仕, 堅守處女防線，到30多歲才破處, 她告訴我多後侮...青春時的性, 有那時年輕莽撞的氣息，長大後尋回不了。一個人的 sexual prime 是 15 -40歲，她可享受的...只剩5年。她說真遺憾。
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點解要分手? 你愛佢唔可以尊重佢咩?
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