我先生三十歲，精子數目、活躍能力及精子形狀，三樣只得正常的三分一OK，請教一下有沒有人可以成功bingo? 很擔心要人工受孕。如真的要人工受孕，不知機會率有多少，因為我本身經期非常不準。希望各位成功的媽媽和等bingo 的準媽媽分亨一下。

why not try another guy like me?

這個網頁是討論正經的parenthood問題，請專重自己及專重他人。

D無聊男人快滾開，"by helper" 你知不知道這裡有很多人想同自己心愛的人生BBo架，這裡不是結識女朋友的地方，好似LokChu所講，請專重自己及專重他人。

By helper，別人的擔憂你不能分擔享就算；試試將身比己，你將來亦會有機會為人夫、為人父的!!

LokChu, sorry, 沒有意見可提供。希望其他姊妹們可以幫到你......

三樣只得正常的三分一OK, 咁係咪即係等於正常機會三分一? 如果係咁, 做多幾次咪得羅

醫生叫我先生今個月要注意飲食，下個月再驗多一次精子。上次是化驗所驗，下個月是到醫院驗detail些，看看會否好些，否則可能要做人工受孕。

To: On

Thank you very much for your message.

To: Easy

I also think about this, but it is difficult for active sperm to reach the oval. The chance is very small. I think less than 1/3.

有人曾經說過海鮮對精子有幫助, 不過我唔知真定假, 你問下醫生, 唔使擔心, 醫學倡明, 一定幫到你咖

To: 蝶蝶

好似是生蠔對精子有幫助，但我先生是不吃生蠔的。他自己覺得應該不關飲食的事，因為日日都有食Amway 的維他命丸，可能是天生的。

放鬆d啦!! 相比其他100%不育既夫婦，你仍有"人工授孕"的選擇ma!!

暫時還未知，要等下一個月的驗精報告後再請教醫生，另我自己已量了半個月的基礎體溫，暫不知何時排卵。因我自己有卵巢多嚢証，可能會好難排卵及經期不準，現已三十歲了，不想再等。

LokChu

Frankly speaking, if both of your husband and u have problem, I suggest u to ask a doctor to write a refferal letter. U go to PWH or QMH for early assessment and even start ivf earlier.

(just my recommandation)

To: apple

I also think of PWH or QMH. Do you know how much does ivf cost in public and private hospital? How long should I wait? I will discuss with Dr. Tung Hui Fong after my husband's done his test one month later. Do I always need to take leave from office? I afraid that my boss will black face. I do not want to tell him about our personal matters, especially ivf treatment. He does not have any child but actually I know he wants one or two. He hates others to talk about their children.

Do you know whether the leave can be classified as sick leave or not?

Thank you very much!

有沒有姊妹正在試ivf? 入來傾下

LokChu : 我都想叫我老公去驗下d精子呀, 你老公係邊到驗咖, 幾多錢呀..

"各位諗住計劃生bb既姊妹: 看過幾個topic後, 大家都係有同一個目的理想, 但個人經驗如想生的不要諗住幾時幾就可以, 因為我失敗了好幾次, 所以奉勸大家要快d開始試"

呢個topic d 人對不育好pro咖, 你去問下佢地有咩意見比你喇

To: 蝶蝶

我自己先到董曉芳醫生那處做婦科body check, 其間與她提起想生BB, 不知先生要做什麼準備及檢查。她便寫了兩張form(一張驗血 $750, 一張驗精 $170)及叫護士給我帶走一個小bottle 作留精用。另日兩小時內帶到化驗所，過了幾天，化驗所便有報告給董曉芳醫生，她致電給我話我先生的精子問題。如果你先生沒有問題，她便會叫護士通知你。

董曉芳醫生是於翹康醫務中心, 地址是:

美麗華大廈 Tel: 27221712

沙田希爾頓中心 Tel: 26032123

董曉芳醫生好full, 新証要等大約一個月, 請電預約

化驗所是於Jordan

另外Thank you for your recommendation

LokChu : thanks 董曉芳我都係隔離個topic聽過佢個大名, 唔該你呀

To: 蝶蝶

你自己做了body check 未?

To: 蝶蝶

翹康醫務中心入面有好多婦科醫生可以選擇

LokChu,

I can help u to ask some one who woking in QMH but I need some time.

Thus, u can share with other sisters in she .com first as sugested by 蝶蝶.

To: apple

Thank you very much for your help, waiting for your reply.

"家計會"都好似有得同男士"check精子"架..

Hi,我老公的問題亦不相伯仲,醫生說我們自然懷孕機會是'0'.故我現在正排qmh的ivf,今年4月做第一次,如果你想知有關的資料,可到以下網頁的討論區看看,想生bb,search "ivf"or "qmh"

http://www.baby-kingdom.com/

hi LokChu

再說清楚一點,你可到"親子王國"的網站,找"想生bb"討論區,花點耐性便可找到兩三個與做ivf有關的討論,另你亦可利用google搜尋"qmh""瑪麗"ivf"等關鍵字亦可,如果你要在公家醫院做ivf,便要快點行動,請醫生寫轉介信,然後即到qmh或pwh排隊,如果以qmh為例,若肯定是男方精子問題引致不育,一般排期一年左右便可做ivf,若問題出女方,所需時間則較長,$視乎做普通ivf還是ivf-icsi,約需10k-20k,

To: Kitty

Thank you very much!

知不知道如果私立醫院要等多久? $又多少?

LokChu

Generally, u need to wait for 4 to 5 months for first appointment. The fee is around or more than $10000. If u want to join the "fast line", the fee of whole course is about $ 50000 to 60000.

If u really want to be seen by QMH doctors, pls bring along your referral letter to 5/F, S Block to book an appointment.

LokChu : 我無做過body check, 因為我公司每2年會有body check, 我覺得要知既野我都知, 好似我無地中海貧血, 係乙型肝炎帶菌, 細個已經打左德國麻疹針, 係我老公未去驗精, 不過我唔知我咁諗岩唔岩, 所以都有想去驗多次, 你講果間診所係邊咖

私立醫院或專治不育的私家醫生則可快可慢,要快的話在你下個period一黎便可開始,價錢$50000-$80000一次,聽說董曉芳醫生在這方面幾有名,你何不直接問問她呢

「不育資訊網」網站這個網站亦有很多有用的資訊

http://www.hkinfertility.com/new/

To: 蝶蝶

翹康醫務中心, 地址是:

美麗華大廈18樓 Tel: 27221712

To: apple

If go to QMH for appointment, when will be the first assessment (I mean the first time see the doctor)? need to wait for one year?

To: Kitty

Thank you. The website is very useful.

To: apple

你係唔係已經有了bb?

由攞住封轉介信到qmh排期起計,大約需3-4個月後便可第一次見醫生。(這次一年前的情況)我上年2月去排期,5月便可見醫生,以政府專科來說,算很快了！

podi

LokChu,

我唔知你既問題嚴唔嚴重, 不過你應該叫你老公注意下飲食. 董醫生有俾一張list, 入面講左有d咩要係老公注意既? 好似叫老公唔好去Sauna, 唔好飲coffee同食煙, 著孖煙通等等(我唔記得啦, 不都差唔多). 我想食多種維他命唔夠既, 應該日日都食egg, 我見baby-kingdom入面有位太太知道老公d精子唔合格, 醫生叫佢1個月後再驗, 其間日日鮮奶燉egg, 介哂唔食d唔健康既野, 終於唔駛等1個月就有左啦(都等唔到再check精子果日). 就算叫你老公去睇中醫, 都係叫你食藥同介口架啦!

食生蠔係好有用架(我老公講), 如果佢都同你一樣好喜歡小朋友, 佢一定好樂意同你配合, 唔食都要食. 你同佢講, 如果第日你有左bb, 你一樣會為bb好, 咩好野都食.....

podi

LokChu,

仲有記住要你老公早d訓, 唔好捱夜啦! 你老公都好後生o者..

To: Kitty

原來政府都比我想像中快, 多謝您!我等一個月後先生再驗精子, 再問下董醫生的意見.

To: podi

我都有董醫生那張list, 但入面無提到coffee 唔得。真係coffee 唔飲得? 我自己都覺得最好唔好飲coffee, 但是有一次看Cable TV 的生仔過程的節目, 內容提到男人飲coffee 會提高精子的活躍能力(當然不能僕太多), 都唔知邊個才對.

有沒有人知呀......呀?

podi

LokChu,

我try緊時有叫老公唔好飲coffee, 因為我個中醫叫我老公唔好飲. 我自己都有介下口咁囉.

To: podi

我老公原本都唔食煙、無飲酒、無劇烈運動, 現改了穿孖煙通不穿三角褲, 無Sauna, 另我check 過平時食的維他命丸有含生仔必需的維生素C、E 及鋅, 他已經是平常日日食的了。

現在已另加飲牛奶、豆漿, 等我再叫佢日日食egg 先.

佢對生蠔有抗拒, 因為驚有金屬物質及肝炎等, 打死唔食

To: podi

原來中醫話唔飲得coffee, 不過我老公只係約一個月飲一次, 另我自己是完全無飲coffee的

To: podi

你去邊度睇中醫? 好唔好?是否專看不育不孕的?可否介紹下?

LokChu

Yes.

I bingo naturally but not by ivf ar!

podi : 你講果d我老公都無無做,不過每晚12點左右至訓, 我諗都算係太夜, 以後要改下先, 我自己就想食女性綜合維他命, 不過上次食左一粒, 第2朝m黎痛到暈左, (其實未必同食維他命有關, 不過因為之前除左食佢就無咩特別野食過, 所以就賴曬佢囉) 不過我又想食返, 因為我覺得我係唔正常

To: apple

Congratulations! So happy to hear your good news.

How long did you try naturally?

To: 蝶蝶

你覺得自己有什麼唔正常呀? 有無看醫生呀? 醫生點講?

我有睇中醫, 不過佢成日都係幫我清熱, 所以近排無睇, 諗住食多d菜生果, 過左年至考慮再睇唔睇佢囉.

因為醫生叫我唔好食咁多肉, 牛肉雞肉都話唔好, 佢話d牛好毒, 又打針, 咁我係乙型肝炎帶菌者, 醫生叫我盡量唔好令個肝咁辛苦, 但我不嬲都唔多食肉, 只係菜都少食, 基本上我食野唔多, 不過食親都係快餐類或係街外食, 可能咁令我成日去唔到大大喇, 咁身體毒素咪又多左囉, 不過我近來已經食多左菜同生果, 情況都無乜改善, 所以都好煩

To: 蝶蝶

中醫可能覺得你有熱毒, 所以會幫你清熱, 其實都係調理的一種. 看中醫是要慢慢來的, 不可急.

另外你可以試下一日吃兩至三個奇累果, 去大大好好的, 我有些朋友都有這個問題, 個個食完都話好通, 你可以試下, 真的不可以懶

LokChu : 奇異果真係得呀, 不過我好怕食奇異果因為我覺我多數都係酸, 我好怕食酸野, 不過如果可以暢通既話, 都要試下, thanks

記得前陣子有報章報導說豆漿會影響生育的啊！