好多謝你比我知道你都鐘意我, 起碼我知自己無feel錯 ... 但係同時間你亦都比我知道原來你並唔想同我有d咩將來, 只係希望同我keep一d所謂朋友既關係 ... 我唔開心, 唔知點解, 其實我係預左既, 可能係我唔捨得你, 可能我知我終於衰左係你手上, 可能我真係好想同你一齊 ... 太多既可能 ... 不過有一樣野我好肯定既就係, 我真係好傻, 傻到太執著, 傻到以為人人都好似自己咁, 對愛係認真, 係執著, 係有奢望既 ... 你唔想傷害你既家庭既同時, 你知唔知, 你係度傷害緊我 ...





  • 底死



  • 傷人,其實唔需要太多理由

    但係如果你 care 一個人愛一個人,就唔會忍心傷�



    結論係,佢愛妳,不過係有條件既愛,會隨住條件消失而慢慢淡



  • 我明白當一個人要去選擇既時候, 佢既真心, 真想法就會呈現出黎 ... 係呢個stage, 我絕對明白我連一個後備都不如 ... 我唔開心, 可能係因為我嬲自己咁無用 ...



  • 人面對感情既衝擊,往往係不堪一擊

    呢個唔係妳既錯,因為心臟夠強夠冷的人實在不多,又或者可以講,唔怕痛既人一般都已經心死

    人地唔要妳,妳都要好好對自己欣賞自己

    妳愛佢,都會想佢開心,尊重佢既決定,但同時要學識保護自己

    妳仲寫到野問到人意見,即係妳仲想自己得救,keep 住求生同求開心既本能呀!



  • 唉,救命呀,好燜啊



  • 男同學, 係 ... 特別係我, 面對感情既衝擊, 我真係不堪一擊既 ... that's why, 我依家咁唔開心 ... 好多時候, 我都好想自己無感情, 但係奈何我係一個多情既人, 又或者佢如果唔係一個多情既人, 我諗會好d ... 佢唔要我 ? 嗯 ... 某程度上係, 某程度上亦都唔係 ... 我confuse既係, 我依家到底係咩呢 ? ... 一個知己 ? 一個互相對對方都有感覺既好朋友 ? ... 我好憎自己浮游係呢d關係上, 我只係想要一個肯定 ... 可能人係始終係有要求既, 當我以為自己只係想知佢係唔係真係鐘意我既時候, 我又會要求對方對我肯定 ... 一個死循環 ... 我係鐘意佢, 佢都有同我講佢都鐘意我 ... 咁又點 ? 根本係唔可能 ...



    我開始唔鐘意自己 ...



  • 似乎對方有老婆. �盚�?



  • 你唔應該唔鐘意自己, 你應該係唔再鍾意佢至岩!



  • 失心,



    好認同你講o既野, 我諗..我同你而家o既處境心情係一樣



  • 係, 佢係有老婆 ...



    我好清楚自己真係鐘意佢, 但係佢呢 ? 係唔係只不過追求一時愛既感覺呢 ? 到我認真既時候, 佢就開始想避呢 ? 我唔知 ... 我只係知鐘意一個人係無錯既, 佢心底入面想點都好, 我, 唔會破壞佢家庭, 唔會迫佢 ... 我只會將佢繼續放係心入面 ... 無論佢個心曾經有無過我 ...



  • 咁你即係人地既SL,SP 定只係曖昧?



    你同佢有無親密行為?



  • 嗯 ... 曖昧 ...



    有, 一次 ... 我唔會忘記既一次



  • 你而家想點?





    你介入緊人地婚因, 正確來说, 你是沒有權利要对方对你做什麽! 绝对设有權!





    人地當你係乜?你唔係呀? 咁都問得出? 你話你可以做到人地既セ野身份? 你反問自已啦.





    你感情認真,執着? 用落人地老公道?





    你唔好用落一個單身男仔度?





    相逢恨晚? 你正正經經識其他男仔咪唔使恨晚囉.





    你唔好講到咁委屈...





    其實你好勝, 是非不分, 没有道德, 自以為是.





    仲講到自已好惨.





    真係粗的都要講...收皮啦!









    好聽文雅的咪叫紅顏知己;



    唔好聽街頭语咪叫gin 货咯.



    唔好理人地老公同佢老婆有冇感情,不愛对方セセ物物, 呢的唔到你理, 這亦不是你可以大大聲聲話佢地夫妻感情唔好, 我就可以大模斯樣介入.



    仲要講到好委屈, 人地老公唔顧及係感受.





  • CheerfulSweetie,



    妳說得真好! 一矢中的



  • cheerful sweetie

    you are right!



  • sweetie小姐 (希望無稱呼錯你), 我打以上所有既野都無用一個好委屈既心情去打, 你地睇到感覺到係咩心情係閣下既事 ... 我從來無comment佢地兩個之間既感情, it doesn't my business, 我以上講既只不過係我一d感覺, 一d唔識得同人講既感覺, 正因為唔識講, 所以先借she黎發洩一下, 言論係有自由既, 當然, 閣下喜歡怎樣comment亦都係閣下既事, 但係 ... 係你comment之餘, 請自重一下



  • 小姐, 你上得來發洩都預左有人批評你啦, 要發洩咪自己寫完DELETE囉, 在這�媯L人會安慰你的,踏多腳就有.



    個男人係被你吸引, 唔係愛你, 仲差好遠喎, 男人可以常被不同的女人吸引的, 這點你要先搞清楚, 唔好把2個人代入愛情故事啦, 以後你想起這回事, 你自己都會笑的, 信我.



  • 想問下你地開始時,你已經知佢有老婆定點?



  • 佢想避你, 其實係好架, 最起碼佢都仲係一個好人, 明知唔會同你有結果就唔再行落去, 佢咁樣已經唔算傷害你架喇。



    如果佢係壞人o既, 使咩諗咁多, 玩左你先算啦。就趁情況未係咁複雜o既時候斬纜, 對你對佢對佢屋企都好。



    佢鍾意你, 但唔愛你囉。



    我係過來人, 我知, 你好想試, 你好鍾意佢, 但你信我, 就算你同佢再落去, 你只會更痛, 更hurt, 到時你仲慘呀...



  • 做一世o既朋友, 比做一時o既情人好。



    你明嗎?



  • 上幾個之前Cheerful Sweetie, 你講得咪斯文有見地咯.



    我係大婆, 仲唔搵骨頭埽把打セ柒佢, 吊到呢條xxhum 家產.



    我同老公咁多年, 甜sour 苦棘行在咁多路, 生埋兩個, 生活好幸福.



    你個死xx賤貨一野走能入黎...



    好在我老公識返屋企. 不過已经有裂痕, 但我們會同心一起再建造関係.



    你呢的賤貨死開拉.



    仲好好笑叫話你的人自重!



    簡直如Sweetie 小姐说, 你是非不分.





  • 過來人, 多謝你



  • in your first post, you didn't mention he has a family. and I thought, oh, so sad for this gal.

    After reading further, you are sad because he doesn't treat you right?

    God, please, who are you? You are nobody to him.

    Just a playmate!



  • another stupid girl.



  • CheerfulSweetie講得好!!! 明知人地有老婆重痴埋去真底死,仲同人做埋tim.死狐狸精,係度大條道理唉...呢個死界點解會有你呢亭人.冇男人會死咩,發少陣姣啦唔該.



  • 其實你唔洗理人地講d乜,你覺得同佢開心就得..



    你地幾耐啦 ?



  • 你哋睇下官晶華, 都同秋官結咗婚, 生埋2個, 都10幾年啦.



    啲人仲係講佢係胡尼精. 而家仲好似過街老鼠咁比人鬧.



    所以呢, 搶人老公真係冇好收場架.



  • I agree.



  • Forget the man, he will never be yours.

    Trust me and those who "scold" you here.

    you will just end up with a broken heart,

    he won't do more for you.



  • 樓上之前個位Alice 姐話: "其實你唔洗理人地講d乜,你覺得同佢開心就得.."



    呢隻都係同版主同一黨...



    你咁講, 有人為左佢自已開心, 走埋你度打你一身... 之後話, 我開心就得.



    呢的人好明顯唔係用腦想野的... 係用身體哪部份想野呢???





  • Alice



    咁係咪有個男人非禮妳佢就會好開心

    佢就唔駛理人點講都得

    咁呀 ?



  • Hi all,

    I'm also a victim from an abnormal relationship. My husband has an affair with a girl. It's her who approached my husband. They've know each other for nearly 10 years and this is the second time. The first time happend 3 months before me and my husband got married. The second time happend since last summer. I found out before last X'mas and I could feel myself collapsed. This is the toughest time in my life and everday was filled with tears. Although he eventually broke up with you, our relationship will never be as sweet as before and both of us cannot forget what happened in the past few months.



    You can't imagine how much I hate her now..... I just want to kill her and get rid of her entirely. She slept with him and was pregnant. But they gave up the baby under his persuasion. Maybe my husband still had a little pity on me....

    I can never never forgive this bitch as she knew that I was his girlfriend when they first started few years ago, and she also knows that I'm his wife now. I can understand how blindly a man can become when he is under temptation. There is no excuse for the bitch who deliberately wants to ruin other people's marriage!!!



    My advice/warning to 失心, no one will have pity on you, if eventually you get dumped by your man. It's you yourself who mess around and end up with this shxtty situation. This is all you deserved. I would rather have sympathy on the wife of your man, as she has done nothing wrong, but being hurt by you bitch and her husband. You are just nothing and you have no right to ask for anything from the couple.



  • 道德,只不過係人類用黎保障自己所擁有既野衍生出黎既一種工具

    人生存在世,一般黎講得幾十年,要 maximize 自己既 satisfaction 係一件對自己正確既事

    一個人做任何一個決定,都有人得益,有人受害

    比方說,我好愛你,我為你放棄好多野犧牲好多野,但係你唔愛我,你鍾意既係其他人,我可唔可以話你唔道德?

    老實講,如果只係建基於一張紙既婚姻,根本簽果一刻就註定有人會受傷,都已經唔牽涉到第三者既存在與否

    係相愛既,根本就容納唔到其他人

    要批判,我地只可以批判一個人對自己既承諾同誠信既執行度

    第三者永遠破壞唔到一個健全既家庭,可以破壞既原因,就係中間根本就有問題,有人唔滿足。

    犯錯既係不能履行自己對婚姻承諾既人,做唔到,唔好亂 make promise

    不過又會牽涉到世界上太多人不負責任,太多人信口開河

    今日大家係度吹水,又可以對世界有幾大既改變

    仍然有好多離離合合,仍然有好多破碎家庭,仍然有好多人一腳踏 X 船 (X 係 variable)

    做人寬容 d,睇開 d,鬧人之前,又試下代入對方既 situation 諗諗,如果換轉係自己受,又會如何?咁當然,總有 d 事情係要點醒對方既,不過我個人覺得,道德兩個字唔應該濫用,因為呢個世界從來都冇一個好中立好有公信力既道德指標,如果標準係因人而異,就唔應該當作為一個批判人既工具,有 bias 呀!





    版主



    可收手就收手,因為再落去只會係妳唔開心,繼而有一日死心離場,結左婚既男人有太多野要考慮喇!單單愛情未必能夠動搖到佢已經掌握係手中既野。

    同樣地,如果妳係人地老婆,妳又會點睇呢件事丫?

    將心比己,妳要開心,仲有好多路行,唔甘心既感覺只會帶妳入地獄

    萬般帶不走,唯有業隨身







  • 上面個位人妻, 很同情你的遭遇. 這個第三者一而再再而三侵入你的婚姻.



    現在雖然過了一場風波, 但又難保此女人又會否像計時榨彈再介入你們婚姻作一次引爆.



    所以這位第三者做過的種種, 再加上未來有可能性的再一次破壞; 你对她的恨之入骨想佢死係可以理解的.



    你丈夫選擇與你结婚, 始终視你為终身伴侶. 否则你們還未结婚他仍有選擇權時便不揀你了.



    就算這女人有了, 你老公都要她打掉. 證明此女人在你老公心目中是路边野花希



    希望你繼續勇敢地行下去.











  • 回應上面位男同學:



    恕小妹未及贵男同學學識高, 我根本看不明你長篇大論up 左的乜?



    首先你分析道德... 我谂你講溉係由誰决定道德?

    簡單解釋, 道德, 尤其在婚姻制度上; 一男一女願意结為夫婦. 婚姻係一個committment, 即係大家决志往後日子, 無論贫賤富贵, 健康殘缺, 快樂悲傷...視对方為终身伴侶, 互相心靈上扶持.

    婚姻是不能容入第三者. 道德,就是簡單如此!





    婚姻制度長年千百萬年, 各国家各集族都有不同版本. 全基本是男與女的committment. 現在要講返セ野係婚姻道德都唔係你同我可以拗到.





    你話:咁我好愛你但你又唔愛我, 又係セ道德呀? 咁情形, 此兩人已经在结婚前經不起考驗而结不成啦. 根本同道德係唔拉更.





    點解婚姻咁神聖, 又會有第三者呢?

    無可否認, 第三者出現係其中一方不忠產生的副產品. 不能全怪第三者.



    但如一個有道德的人, 係唔會明知人家已有家室, 都要硬撞入去. 會避之则吉.



    如要硬撞的人, 這些人根本係與街狗冇分別. 佢地只係求歡愉, 明知对方有家庭及婚姻committment, 呢的人都唔會想其他人感受. ok, 就算呢的人係冇obligation為人设想. 咁佢地明知自已係走入沒有希望的感情中, 就唔好期望同人夫有什麽结果.



    的第三者仲要悲傷? 扮可憐? oh eat my shxtt.



    You got what you deserve!



    所以"狐狸精"一詞係精警既.





    *****************



    現今時代, 对感情, 婚姻不忠, 做人狐狸精, 偷人妻 真係旺角招牌跌落街都拍死幾十個啦.



    但不代表人地係歪理, 我就要歪埋一份.



    總之做人問心無槐啦.



    但願多些人可以做人問心無槐.



  • Dear CheerfulSweetie,

    Fully agree with what you said.

    When one decides to get married with his/her another half, this is the committment between the two adults. They should love each other and be loyal to their second half for the rest of their lives. It's not a matter of morality. It's the promise that you make to show how much you love and care your wife/husband.

    Those 3rd parties who want to get into other people's married lives and mess around do not know what love/marriage truly means. They are just selfish and only care about themselves. God will know what these 3rd parties have done and I'm sure they will be treated in future the same way how they have treated the victim couples today.





  • CheerfulSweetie



    問題就係,有幾多人真係明白左婚姻既意義先結婚?妳 REJECT 其他人既追求有冇理過人地感受?不愛就不愛,無其他解釋



    好多時,唔愛都有可能結婚架!係妳睇得婚姻太神聖而已!婚姻牽涉到責任、利益同繁衍,而唔係單單相愛就結婚。婚姻既維繫,係需要雙方都 PUT EFFORT,有一方唔出力或唔想去 KEEP,就會失衡,繼而 COLLAPSE



    重點唔係所謂既道德,重點係每個人對婚姻既功能都有唔同定義,妳諗既,唔代表妳既伴侶都係咁諗



    ANYWAY,我對中國人多年黎既道德批判好有懷疑,道德背後既陰暗面又有幾多人有考慮過?



  • WHWC



    神,只會睇我地 D 人類不斷做戲,如果神愛世人,咁世人唔應該有傷心,因為我地都唔想我地愛既人傷心



    報應係會有,因為報應取決於一個人既生活環境同性格,即使你有千百萬個選擇,但因為你既經驗同埋性格,最終你都只會 MAKE 一個 CHOICE,而時間係直線行進,所以每一個連鎖反映都係整定既,呢 D 就係所謂既報應喇!



    咁 MAKE 得 DECISION,就梗係要 TAKE RISK 架喇!點可以下下都輸打贏要呢!



    其實點講都好,世界仍然有自私、背叛、虛偽既存在,人類太善變喇!或者係一種求生本能啦!我覺得人係應該不斷追求令自己得到 SATISFACTION 既方法,但做左決定之後既後果,就必須要承擔囉!包括俾人係 FORUM 狂插!呵呵呵



  • 似是而非男同學:



    结婚, 你係街頭求其找一個7歲小朋友問, 他都會答你(以他7歲level): 兩個人相愛, 想共同生活, 直至永遠.



    男同學你不斷的point 是: 我愛你你又唔愛我.. 咁咪即係唔係"相愛"咯. 唔相愛又點會结婚?



    又, 你去公園找些已经歷大半世纪的公公婆婆, 問他們婚姻點维持. 他們會答你model answer: 互相體諒, 互相尊重...



    但唔担保這些呀公式呀婆年輕時有冇对另一半不忠, 有冇打過交... 但大家都過了大半世,到了那個年齢, 一同行公園, 以往恩怨,以成歷史. 最终都係堅持視对方為终身伴侶.



    一張婚書, 不是一張免死狀. 大家都會经過萬難, 正如结婚盟誓會有: 無論贫賤富贵, 健康殘缺, 快樂悲傷...視对方為终身伴侶, 互相心靈上扶持, 至死不喻.



    只是短短幾句, 便總括婚姻將會经過幾多風浪.



    不停的風波,就是考驗夫妻能否同心渡過.



    可以過関斬將的, 八十歲行公園的人會是你在60年前互給对方承诺的那位...



    考驗過不到, 離婚再move on.



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    你話人生苦短, 但求自已開心.



    咁你為左自已開心去侵入人地婚姻, 倒頭來, 咪好似版主或人妻隻狐狸精, 好唔開心. 咁呢的咪真係叫做损人不利已, 自已拿來賤.



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    至於你的"神愛世人論" 唉, 話你似是而非係講真, 唔係想插你. 亦很out of topic. 如男同學想認真探索神, 建議同男同學請往教會作查究. 唔好係度作出歪理論.



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    我借版主呢個post 來長篇大論一番唔係只是上來she.com 發up 風,去插插人又一day,(我用手寫版出中文好慢好辛苦架, 打英文又冇咁hk地道). 我希望呢的人深想下自已做的是损人不利己事情.



    總之, 問自已是否做人可以問心無槐.









  • 男同學,

    I doubt if you've ever had a loved one to whom you'll give your whole heart to love her, protect and take care of her. You seem not quite understand how it really feels when you really love someone.

    True love is the basis of a real marriage. If you really believe in true love, you would not even care whether it's risky or not.





  • 失心

    我好明白妳, 因我都係試過比一個女仔話我地只係朋友,

    唔可以做sl, 但我唔明白點解唔可以做sl?

    如果唔可以做sl, 咁我地識時就唔好話掛住我啦.

    :(



  • CheerfulSweetie



    妳又憑咩野去証明我所講既係歪理呢?因為唔順妳意就係歪理?

    我既 point 係叫人諗清楚自己可以承擔既責任同後果先去做決定

    婚姻定義既 model answer 人人都識講,但係唔係人人都做到?

    版主需要既係意見,咁我地咪係度俾意見囉!當然,版主 post 得出黎,都應該要預左有人批判佢。



    whwc



    我有愛過人,最終都係俾人背叛,就係咁簡單



  • 過來人, 男同學, 好多謝你地 ...



    係度我pick左好多可以點醒我既句子 ... 我會記住 ...



    "做一世朋友好過做一時既情人"



    "可收手就收手,因為再落去只會係妳唔開心,繼而有一日死心離場,結左婚既男人有太多野要考慮喇!單單愛情未必能夠動搖到佢已經掌握係手中既野。"







  • 只想講......底死



  • 失心



    佢咁樣同你講,即係 keep 住你,但係又唔想同你再進一步



    因為佢已經同你上左床,所以佢唔需要再俾你d 乜野幻想,以為會同佢有將來



    呢度有唔少男人,都係話自己結左婚,有個好處係上完床後上唔到身



    你自己諗下,上床前同上床後,佢d 嘴臉係唔係唔同左。



  • 失心



    你講既係愛;佢講既係性。

    有左性之後,就梗係鬆人啦,唔通等你上身咩!

    到依家你重以為佢係愛你,你就真係傻!



  • 係咩都好, 我已經決定只會同佢做一世既朋友 ...



    btw, 上床後佢係對我係更加關心, 我無需要講大話 ... 我無以為佢愛我, 我知佢只係鐘意我 ...



  • 失心



    咁…你地呢一種一世既朋友,重會唔會上床呢? 好奇一問。



  • 但係,點解你明知佢有老婆,又未同你確認個關係

    你又同佢有親密行為?

    你唔覺蝕底咩?



    其實你幾大呢?

    多唔多戀愛經驗?


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