hk core value - we should protect!





  • I believe my weibo in Chinese should have given some of you some insight of my thought. Core value I am talking about. As a nation, Japan may have been trying hard to limit their immigration policy. After more than 1000 years of unification and assimilation, Japan has made a very firm core value within her country. She has been working hard to protect such a value in order to make her country to be productive. With merely 127mil population in Japan, Japanese government recognizes she needs to work hard to protect her society to avoid dissimilation of her value.











    Foreign countries have been complaining the immigration policies in Japan. I agree that it is very difficult and almost impossible to get citizenship in Japan. However, Japan has no other means but to limit the inflow of foreigners into her country to protect her nation. Without a good selection process, any random inflow of immigrants will destroy the value of Japan in one go.











    This is exactly what is happening in Hong Kong. With merely 7mil population, Hong Kong has a very fragile culture and is ready to be destroyed by any inflow of bad elements. This is exactly happening at the moment. Before 1997, we had been experiencing some inflow of immigrants from China. However, those people were mostly educated and would follow the game of rules played in Hong Kong. During that period, Hong Kong was still in a good harmony. Everyone was happy and everyone would get their returns according to the rules.











    However, ever since 2003, when Hong Kong was badly hit by SARS, Hong Kong SAR government decided to open up the travelling policies to allow more visitors from China to Hong Kong to save her economy. However, without precise computation by the government, Hong Kong government just let go all the restrictions and we had been flooded with a big portions of travelers with no education and no mindset of law and humanity. As such, many previously local citizens started picking up bad habits like smoking in the public, jay walking, splitting, etc.











    Lately we have a Beijing University professor Mr. Kong making nonsense comments to attack the legal value in Hong Kong. There are regulations across most countries not allow eating or drinking in subway or trains. However, this professor was making a big case to attack Hong Kong using existing rules to not allow a kid eating on train in Hong Kong. Does this mean China has no legal system? Or no one ever needs to be obliged by law and regulations in China? If such a comment could be coming out from a professor in such a highly prestigious university in China, I can understand why there are so many Chinese travelers doing all sorts of rule breaking behavior in China.











    With merely 7mil population in Hong Kong, if we have been flooded with travelers or people with no sense of law and regulations, I can see this is going to be the end of Hong Kong. Should this be the time for our government to stand up and let the world know we have a very good legal system to protect our citizens and business community? Or should we just let go and give up our world standard core value and get abandoned by the international community later on as we are forced to drop using law and regulations to protect our economy and our citizens?











    People! It is time for us to know what is right and what is wrong. We should be united together and get ourselves together and be the role model to this new Chinese economy. We have the power to show the world and we have the power to tell the Chinese government what the international community is looking for.




  • 對不起!


    我的英文不大靈光,


    但很想知道內容,


    可否打中文呢?


    有勞!!



  • 退一步看 - 陶傑





    廣東道和時代廣場淪陷,那麼放棄這些領土好了。大埔的單車徑和新娘潭、大澳漁村和長洲、尖沙咀的藝術博物館,都沒有中國大陸自由行遊客。不會有的。首先,他們早年踏自行車上下班,認為自行車是「落後」的工具,他們喜歡德國的平治房車。這就好了,大埔的單車徑,沿着吐露港,一路上風輪電掣,就有八十年代香港的歲月感覺。





    大澳和長洲,沒得「購物」,誰會去那裏豪花一百萬買鹹魚和蝦醬?不,他們喜歡意大利名牌。買鹹魚蝦醬回大陸做手信,會被他們的鄉親鄙視,所以,樂觀地看,這又是一片淨土。





    連同香港離島的地質公園:東平洲、蒲台島、大小磨刀石,中國遊客視之為蠻荒,只有勞改的人才會去,那麼太好了,看,香港還有許多很可愛而未受污染的地方。


    至於香港的博物館,大陸客也不感興趣:像海防博物館,他們不懂太平洋戰爭的歷史;山頂的警察博物館,沒什麼好看的,告訴他們:不如回家鄉看街上的城管和公安,至於藝術博物館,展覽黃般若、潘天壽,這些畫都不拍賣,眼看手勿動,沒一個「錢」字掛鈎,所以,那一帶十分清靜。





    香港大會堂低座和尖沙咀文化中心,時有香港管弦樂團的演奏,蕭邦,原名 Chopin,不是 Chanel;莫扎特,不是他們熟悉的 Moiselle;有時候,香港鋼琴家蔡崇力演奏李斯特。蔡崇力英文名叫 Frederick Tsai,那個 Tsai姓,不必擔心,跟周大福, Chow Tai Fook,距離十萬八千里。





    所以凡事退一步看,正如孔慶東不代表十三億中國人,廣東道和時代廣場也不是香港的全部,香港還有許多真正屬於香港人自己的地方,只要你不像他們喧嘩,這些青山綠水,都很可愛。





    正如巴黎人,也欣然把一座「老佛爺」讓給中國客,只要他們帶很多很多的錢來。還有歌劇院和拉丁區,辰光清永,歲月靜好。看,巴黎人有這份自信,香港人呢?







  • I dont really care much on how they can take over our physical land. what i do care is our people have only been picking up the bad habits from them. if we can remember where were we and how we were named as one of the 4 little dragon, i dont think we will lose anything.





    Furthermore, i wonder why our stupid government cannot work like the germam nor like the singaporean government in handling the outlawers, we have the system! Dont you think so? we should think twice now on our value. and why wr cannot voice out when we have the rules and regulations.





    In short, only the qualified ones can stay. the uncivilized ones or uneducated ones should go.



  • hope we can work hard together



  • 我相信下一代已不可以叫香港人,已混入太多人了



  • True. but you are talking at teh level of "race" only. HK is a piece of land with her culture. Hope our UK "gene" could be passed on and know how to respect our land and our culture and our society.





    Those would like to join us can also be called as HK people. Dont you think so?





    Those born in HK but dont follow this way should not be named as HK people



  • Core Value?!!





    What are they in Hong Kong!!??



  • Host


    Mind to share with us your "HK core values"?



  • most HK people (i dont want to argue we do have some uncivilized HKers )





    1. respect law and regulations





    2. will take what belongs to them and will not try to get what's not belong to them





    3. will aim high and try to achieve





    4. will obey underlying rules of each game





    5. give out their love / $ to the needed one - in particular during crisis





    certainly we are all here trying to make for our living and our family, but we will not try to take unnecessary risk and degrade ourselves



  • However, without precise computation by the government, Hong Kong government just let go all the restrictions and we had been flooded with a big portions of travelers with no education and no mindset of law and humanity.





    >>> 點止以上咁? 仲有好多大陸女人黎香港生仔,搞到本地孕婦無床位生仔,呢啲咪多謝港男 "娶大陸女人" 後遺症囉!



  • From macro pov, i think our core values are:





    1. Freedom





    2. Human rights





    3. Rule by laws





    4. Respect with each others





    5. Democracy (though I doubt it's existing or not)





    For point 4, I think one of the strengths of HKese is 求同存異,we embrace our strengths, but at the same time, we appreciate others and learn from them.




  • 沈旭暉:大熔爐與香港核心價值





    近月不少爭議,像孔慶東教授言論、D&G拍攝事件、「雙非人」成為特首選舉議題等,均觸及新移民、內地遊客、使用本地公共資源的非本地居民等群組。在網絡世界,香港與內地網民就此連番激辯,互斥對方歧視;在知識份子圈子,也引發了不同門派學者的論戰。其實在宏觀角度,出現這些爭議是十分正常的,即使是兩德統一,德東與德西人至今也有不同層面的矛盾存在,重要的是如何表達、如何化解。





    在一國兩制框架下,香港一直以自己的核心價值自豪,例如重視法治、人權、自由等,都是我們深信的理念。核心價值的重要性,正是維繫一個地方人心的根本,就像一個大熔爐,足以把來自五湖四海的人融合。香港作為一個移民社會,到今日有深厚的社會凝聚力,不再自居「借來的城市」,就是因為我們深信這些核心價值,並希望來到香港的客人,都尊重我們的價值觀;對希望移民來香港的朋友,我們希望他們是認同香港核心價值而來。





    筆者幾乎每月到內地交流、開會,遇過難以理喻的朋友,正如在國外,也難免遇過個別不快事件,香港也有極個別偏好人身攻擊的評論人。但理性的人,不應以偏概全,遇上一個美國人人身攻擊中國人,就把美國列為野蠻國家;事實上,筆者在美國入學的第一課,就是說明「hate crime」的破壞力,那才是留學予人最深刻的影響。同一道理,在香港個別內地朋友的作風,不能代表整個中國,而內地在港留學生的質素,就絕不比香港學生遜色;他們大多珍惜香港的核心價值,並對港人港地心懷感情。孔慶東教授的言論、對香港法治的不解,令人反感,但製造二元對立,也是缺乏自信的表現;若港人只以眼前案例來論證自我優越,以十三億國人為蝗蟲,何嘗不是缺乏自信的表現?





    當然,以香港的面積,自不可能接納全國各地、乃至全球的移民。對孔教授的言論、D&G的政策、雙非人使用香港公共資源,筆者個人都不贊同。但對於希望如何制定移民政策、對公共資源如何避免被非本地居民濫用,香港市民自應直接發表意見,政府的人口政策也應該定期修正,這些都是理性討論足以解決的問題;若政府閉門造車,自會受到監督和批評,這裡針對的應是政策層面,不是人。對根據政策接納了的新移民,我們則應以我們的核心價值,盡力將他們融合在這個大熔爐內,這是香港人應該持有的信念,否則香港何以有今天?在這個「兩部曲」內,有根本方圓,不應有互相仇恨的空間,否則「hate crime」會變成常態,這是內地人、香港人都必須明白的。



  • 事實,港男娶大陸女人影響港人深遠,有些能力唔高的港男,聚大陸女人來港後,又無經濟能力,又要申請"公援". 另一些自以為是的港男, 以為聚到有學歷的大陸女人就無事,但咪又係唔識教小朋友,"自私自利","任由放緃","有錢都拿港人福利"等等,長遠影響本港的下一代,都是港男娶"大陸女人"之過,不知所謂!



  • I love HK replied at 2012-01-30 1:39 pm


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    True. but you are talking at teh level of "race" only. HK is a piece of land with her culture. Hope our UK "gene" could be passed on and know how to respect our land and our culture and our society.





    Those would like to join us can also be called as HK people. Dont you think so?





    Those born in HK but dont follow this way should not be named as HK people


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    我好悲觀,我相信正宗香港人的下一代會好痛苦,會發覺爸媽教的道德同價值觀完全同被混入的社會完全脫節



  • centralol replied at 2012-01-29 7:42 pm


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    退一步看 - 陶傑





    廣東道和時代廣場淪陷,那麼放棄這些領土好了。大埔的單車徑和新娘潭、大澳漁村和長洲、尖沙咀的藝術博物館,都沒有中國大陸自由行遊客。不會有的。首先,他們早年踏自行車上下班,認為自行車是「落後」的工具,他們喜歡德國的平治房車。這就好了,大埔的單車徑,沿着吐露港,一路上風輪電掣,就有八十年代香港的歲月感覺。





    大澳和長洲,沒得「購物」,誰會去那裏豪花一百萬買鹹魚和蝦醬?不,他們喜歡意大利名牌。買鹹魚蝦醬回大陸做手信,會被他們的鄉親鄙視,所以,樂觀地看,這又是一片淨土。





    連同香港離島的地質公園:東平洲、蒲台島、大小磨刀石,中國遊客視之為蠻荒,只有勞改的人才會去,那麼太好了,看,香港還有許多很可愛而未受污染的地方。


    至於香港的博物館,大陸客也不感興趣:像海防博物館,他們不懂太平洋戰爭的歷史;山頂的警察博物館,沒什麼好看的,告訴他們:不如回家鄉看街上的城管和公安,至於藝術博物館,展覽黃般若、潘天壽,這些畫都不拍賣,眼看手勿動,沒一個「錢」字掛鈎,所以,那一帶十分清靜。





    香港大會堂低座和尖沙咀文化中心,時有香港管弦樂團的演奏,蕭邦,原名 Chopin,不是 Chanel;莫扎特,不是他們熟悉的 Moiselle;有時候,香港鋼琴家蔡崇力演奏李斯特。蔡崇力英文名叫 Frederick Tsai,那個 Tsai姓,不必擔心,跟周大福, Chow Tai Fook,距離十萬八千里。





    所以凡事退一步看,正如孔慶東不代表十三億中國人,廣東道和時代廣場也不是香港的全部,香港還有許多真正屬於香港人自己的地方,只要你不像他們喧嘩,這些青山綠水,都很可愛。





    正如巴黎人,也欣然把一座「老佛爺」讓給中國客,只要他們帶很多很多的錢來。還有歌劇院和拉丁區,辰光清永,歲月靜好。看,巴黎人有這份自信,香港人呢?





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    agreed.... thanks for posting this article.



  • 法治、人權、自由...





    they are the basic core values of dignified human existence in any modern democratic society.



  • w


    You are here too. I like the irony of 陶傑!





    Reading his article always gives me a giggle!! ^^



  • centralol replied at 2012-01-30 2:48 pm


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    w


    You are here too. I like the irony of 陶傑!





    Reading his article always gives me a giggle!! ^^


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    yes, 陶傑 can be annoyingly sarcastic and sometimes borderline 無厘頭。


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