成日話香港女人點唔好,其實有乜好Complain呢?E個社會对人既逼迫,競爭既壓力,工作既沉重,已經磿烕曬生活既樂趣,日日返工打仗咁,朝九晚九,如何溫柔得起?誰不知溫柔善解人意的女人可愛?我都想放左工仲興致勃勃整餐好既比老公食,仲有心情氹下嗲下老公,但我能嗎?生活容許我嗎?





  • 香港男人壓力咪仲大! 咁點解又要港男對妳地講風度講禮讓呀? 況且,港男只要求港女對自己的情人溫柔體貼,但港女就要港男對妳地全體都講風度禮讓. 而家邊個刻薄邊個?



  • 諜, No excuse


    Life has been changed.





    Women work and can earn as much as Men do. So women expected more.





    Men's position was lowered due to the rise of the female workforce in the society. They can only find superior feeling in front of other countries women (in a cheaper way).





    Everyone has pressure especially working in nowadays. We need to understand and be considerate for everyone in order to live happily. (everyone included : parents, brothers and sisters, lover... etc... )



  • Don't bring home any rubbish you encounter at work! It's tough enough in the office already. Try keep your home free from all the rubbish at work.



  • 得啦得啦! 而家港男北上娶妻唔要港女, 自然再唔會有人逼你溫柔逼你氹啦! 咁合曬你要求啦下話.



  • 呢D米男女要求唔同羅,女既要男人有事業、上進、成熱、細心、可以保護到佢,男既要女人年輕貌美、溫柔體貼、持家有道,儘管時代已變,社會環境己變,但好多男女仍是傳統擇偶條件。



  • Yes, Dick, you are right.





    Please don't bring any rubbish from work to home. Just come home with a smile. I am waiting to be served and pleased. I don't care how much you earn and how hard is your work. Just go prepare the dinner and wash dishes. might as well do a leg massage for me before you sleep.




  • Hong Kong Men are all dick head


    Seems you want a servant than a wife.





    Dick


    Also agree with you. No matter you have men or women, we should not bring work rubbish home...



  • 呢D米男女要求唔同羅,女既要男人有事業、上進、成熱、細心、可以保護到佢,男既要女人年輕貌美、溫柔體貼、持家有道,儘管時代已變,社會環境己變,但好多男女仍是傳統擇偶條件。





    by 男 - 02/13/07 09:33





    No way! 根據版主邏輯, "有事業、上進"同"細心、可以保護到佢", 兩樣只能揀一樣.





    港男要"有事業、上進", 受左壓力回家後就不能再細心, 唔該港女都唔好得一又想二. 如港女做不到事業與溫柔兼顧, 就唔好要求港男做得到.





    唔好輸打贏要.











    Please don't bring any rubbish from work to home. Just come home with a smile. I am waiting to be served and pleased. I don't care how much you earn and how hard is your work. Just go prepare the dinner and wash dishes. might as well do a leg massage for me before you sleep.








    by Hong Kong Men are all dick head - 02/13/07 09:33





    如男人要做呢D野, 你又會做D乜野?



  • 點解而家D男人講野講得咁盡?



  • 有風當然駛盡裡



  • 每個國家地方都有想嫁有錢人的女仔,(even大陸),只不過可能佢地對有錢的定義唔同,佢地一個月得幾百蚊收入,如果港男有幾千蚊一個月,返到去已經係有錢人。


    同樣地,每個地方都有賤男同陳世美,自卑又自大的男人,你估淨係香港至有咩!



  • 質素低既就自然冇人吼,話之你行勻全世界.



  • 男又打工, 女又打工, 點解男人壓力大d?





    男又養家, 女又養家, 未嫁可能有呀媽做家務嫁左要自己一腳踢, 有幾多男人會放工煮飯洗衫洗廁所個老葡婆坐晌度等開飯? 點解男人會辛苦d?





    到生埋細路, 開支大左更加要返工做家務重要同小朋友溫書電視都無時間睇, 女方係輸家定男方?





    呢d係好典型公一份婆一份家庭, 你搵唔到好女人自己都有問題, 你唔去註冊處做個survey有既多女人結完婚唔使做?



  • Lizzy


    Agree!





    Should be fair... Both men and women should co-operate to build a happy family.





    Woman is not servant. Everyone has a role in the family and we all need to play it good...



  • very good topic ar !!


    pls fight !!



  • 男又打工, 女又打工, 點解男人壓力大d?





    男又養家, 女又養家, 未嫁可能有呀媽做家務嫁左要自己一腳踢, 有幾多男人會放工煮飯洗衫洗廁所個老葡婆坐晌度等開飯? 點解男人會辛苦d?





    到生埋細路, 開支大左更加要返工做家務重要同小朋友溫書電視都無時間睇, 女方係輸家定男方?





    呢d係好典型公一份婆一份家庭, 你搵唔到好女人自己都有問題, 你唔去註冊處做個survey有既多女人結完婚唔使做?





    by lizzy - 02/13/07 18:32





    既然係咁, 唔該D港女以後唔好催婚, 男人唔肯結婚都係為你地好架咋!





    a. 唔通你唔嫁, 你阿媽會一世做家務服侍你咩? 你有冇問過佢肯唔肯呀? 你百年歸老之後又點呀?


    b. 你D港女又肯放工煮飯洗衫洗廁所咩? 咪又係請工人,再唔係出街食! 唔好以為將舊垃圾踢俾人就等於自己乾淨.


    c. 開支大左咪又係男人俾多D! 唔係的話你D港女就唔使死都要伴侶收入高過你啦! 人地出多D錢, 你出多D力, 呢D係天經地義. 有本事你一個擔起頭家,到時你要隻佬幫你挽鞋都得!


    d. 你D港女咁大支野,男人大不了咪唔打搞你囉! 北上囉! 你唔好理北妹係平過你定好過你, 男人做得呢個選擇, 就證明佢更合成本效益.





    港女淨係識搵藉口同輸打贏要,如果你講既係��,而家就應該係港男搵唔到老婆,唔係港女搵唔到老公啦! 港女真係咁唔怕蝕底既話, 全世界男人都僕心僕命爭住要啦!





    Should be fair... Both men and women should co-operate to build a happy family.





    Woman is not servant. Everyone has a role in the family and we all need to play it good...





    by haha - 02/13/07 18:39





    大家不妨研究一下.





    請問你D港女為左build a happy family, 要求男人付出D乜? 你地自己又願意付出D乜?



  • i mean你阿媽百年歸老之後又點



  • 梁芷珊





    下輩子,仍然做女人





    原來,很多人仍然在討論香港的男女平等問題。





    看見女性團體代表在電視節目裡與簡炳墀爭拗女性得不到應有的尊重問題,我卻另有看法。





    我是一直認為男女不平等的 - 生而為香港女人,實在太幸福了。





    香港女人(我是說普遍的情況),實在沒理由再埋怨社會對妳不公平、男人對妳不夠好。





    撫心自問,作為香港女人,妳「身水身汗」過嗎? 一般較為粗重的工作,都由男人代勞,彷彿已是「奉旨」之事。妳在寫字樓意圖彎身換蒸餾水樽,已經有人看不過眼,立即喚男同事幫忙了。東方女性勝在體形嬌小,一致被認定不能幹粗活,既然如此,「認命」也無妨。





    作為香港女人,妳有被要求過為奴為婢嗎?香港有個最好的制度,是可以$3270聘請外傭處理家務,只要妳在外賺到五、六千元,已經除笨有精。相對很多先進國家的女人,要先打掃完室內,再到門前剷雪,已經差天共地。





    作為香港女人,有人限制你的衣著打扮嗎?我們不需以黑布朦面,頭髮可長可短,化妝不化妝都不被干涉,穿得性感無任歡迎。可見妳想要以甚麼外貌示人,全是個人形像設計,這對某些中東國家女性來說,已是皇恩大赦。





    作為香港女人,無論妳要當職業女性或家庭主婦,都不會受到歧視。若你日理萬機,就是「巾幗不讓鬚眉」;選擇全職相夫教子,就是「生來好福氣」。相反,男人若無業,會被看成怪物,這叫做社會壓力。





    可以再說的,像男女同工同酬,香港已經做得很好。





    再說,男人非禮女人,罪大惡極;女人非禮男人,可能難以入罪吧!





    若還要爭拗甚麼「丁權」問題,甚麼家產傳男不傳女,算了吧!別貪戀這些上一代留下來的東西,我們有手有腳,社會又不是不給女人機會,有甚麼比靠自己更馨香?





    若然可以選擇,下輩子,我要再做香港女人。



  • 【茶渣】


    憑甚麼鬧香港男人?(李敏)


    《茶杯》第十九期 09/19





    很多雜誌喜歡刊登女作者鬧男人的文章, 有些人還勸我寫多些這類文章可以增加讀者數目。





    可是我個人認為香港男人整體而言不算是糟糕的茶渣,試問問你家中的菲籍或印籍女家務助理,在她們的家鄉有多少男人可以擔起一個家?他們不是有心無力的話,就是整天成群的坐在一堆躲懶。





    剛剛跟宣明會到過緬甸,在探訪窮鄉僻壤時,多見女人在做家務及照顧孩子,而不少男人就是像一灘爛泥般絕望。窮困已經可以餓壞妻兒子女,但那些男人還要抽煙、酗酒,甚至好賭。





    對!香港男人也有不好,他們好色,會上夜總會也會嫖妓;我當然不贊同這些娛樂,但最低限度,香港大部分男人都不容許自己「餓死老婆瘟臭屋」。





    也許,有人笑我對男人的要求低,只要求他們顧家,但要知道一個男人如果不養老婆子女,那不是家庭問題,而是社會問題。沒有男人照顧的妻兒由誰照顧?由社會照顧!社會是甚麼?社會就是你和我交的稅(包括一些本已在努力工作來養家的男人,所以勤奮的香港男人不但養自己的家,也輔助了一些工作能力較弱的男人去養家)。





    就拿菲律賓女人做例子,單是我一個家務助理就助養了三個弟弟和他們的家。香港女人縱使有負擔亦不會這麼沉重,其實我們應該感恩。





    曾經勸我多寫文章鬧香港男人的編輯中也有男人,但我覺得不論男女都有不是的地方,做人不能太偏激,更不能嘩眾取寵。可是從這些男編輯的提議,我又看到香港男人是給女人罵慣的,他們根本已不介意,只要女人鬧得有趣的話。





    可以鬧男人而男人又高興,女人甚至會得到酬勞,我想沒有太多亞洲國家有這種程度的女權。





    在美國,人們說男女平等的意思是「男人不要欺負女人,而女人也不要臭罵男人」;在香港,女人可以隨便鬧男人。香港女人的優勢,是因為在香港男人擁有紳士風度的同時,香港女人又巧妙地執著「社會弱者的優待」。





    女人心情好時來一次AA制就是覺得自己可以與男人看齊,但心情不好時付賬就是男人的責任。忽然鼓吹平等,忽然愛做弱者,這樣比被稱為強者的男人更自由自在。





    不是我對男人的要求低,其實我已經沒有與那些用黑布把女人由頭包到腳的回教國家相比,而即使比起西方最自由的國家,香港女人的自由度也很高,要做女強人、少奶奶還是混合體,悉隨尊便,香港男人容許女人有的是選擇。





    當然,香港男人愛犯天下男人犯的錯,但他們去滾的時候總要千方百計地瞞著女人。這代表了甚麼?就是他們好怕老婆和女朋友的。要知沒有太多地方的妻子有阻嚇丈夫跟其他女人上床的能力,而香港女人是罕有地被男人珍惜。





    香港男人的確有很多不是,但地球上哪個國家的男人是完美?





    當女人放眼世界,就知香港男人不錯不錯。


    再者,香港女人一定不是地球上最溫柔的伴侶,我恐怕再過五十載,香港的女人會很寂寞。



  • 香港女人,佔了便宜又賣乖,拿了著數還要講風涼說話.





    你當男人傻架???????



  • .



  • 請問你D港女為左build a happy family, 要求男人付出D乜? 你地自己又願意付出D乜?





    by 呢個世界好現實 - 02/14/07 00:10





    Why you asked as above but not 請問你D港男為左build a happy family, 要求女人付出D乜? 你地自己又願意付出D乜?





    Again, my thinking is co-operate. 要求 and 願意付出 is from both directions... Please do not mis-understand.





    Truely speaking, although I'm not the type of 港女 described above. But since I'm not beauty, I was treated to have 'sin' by some 男人. (I know it is very common)





    Luckily, I have found my other half and we both work hard to maintain our family.





    Both men and women, add oil!



  • Why you asked as above but not 請問你D港男為左build a happy family, 要求女人付出D乜? 你地自己又願意付出D乜?











    Because你提出呢個主張,所以應先show你的誠意. 俾得呢個主張, 唔係應該知道點去execute先講既咩?



  • Man is not an ATM either.



  • 用下腦啦


    Ha~ ha~ Please clarify: By asking the question on the other side is just wanted to show that most of us would only think from ourside side...





    It would be less quarrals of everyone can think for both sides and both 要求 and 願意付出... instead of starting to think from 1 side (ie. your side) This is my theory, I have already show my 誠意 for this theory by being netural to think... instead of standing in 1 side.





    ie. understand others and to be considerate





    用下腦is only an activity, 用腦 to think something meaningful and have grained something is the key....





    Last but not least, I understand you guys maybe have bad experiences with girls... but i can tell you that, it also happened for girls. Hope everyone can find your good partner la!



  • a. 男人同屋企住都係呀媽做家務啦, 我講緊女人立場唔等於男人無呢個情況喎





    b. 你估個個家庭都請得起工人兼有地方比工人住架? 間屋老公唔住,廁所唔用, 餐飯無份食既, 就算請工人都係做家務唔係服侍個老婆呀





    c. 人地真係要靠老婆養起頭家的話係男人都要面唔會周圍唱自己下嘛? 生細路要2方情願, 你唔想開支大唔想出多d咪唔好生囉, 無人逼到你架, 況且個仔/女剩係老婆唔係你既 ? 而家大把女人驚應付唔到男人想要女人都唔想生呀





    d. 你鐘意召妓係你既事, 唔好賴落女人度








































  • Last but not least, I understand you guys maybe have bad experiences with girls... but i can tell you that, it also happened for girls. Hope everyone can find your good partner la!





    by haha - 02/14/07 11:02





    你講左咁耐到未解釋你expect D乜同願意付出D乜.











    a. 男人同屋企住都係呀媽做家務啦, 我講緊女人立場唔等於男人無呢個情況喎


    b. 你估個個家庭都請得起工人兼有地方比工人住架? 間屋老公唔住,廁所唔用, 餐飯無份食既, 就算請工人都係做家務唔係服侍個老婆呀


    c. 人地真係要靠老婆養起頭家的話係男人都要面唔會周圍唱自己下嘛? 生細路要2方情願, 你唔想開支大唔想出多d咪唔好生囉, 無人逼到你架, 況且個仔/女剩係老婆唔係你既 ? 而家大把女人驚應付唔到男人想要女人都唔想生呀


    d. 北上唔一定召妓既, 娶老婆都可以講成本同回報. 係呀!上面D女人係洗男人錢呀!但我地洗得值呀!你地值咩?



  • 人地出多D錢, 你出多D力, 呢D係天經地義.





    明冇?



  • a. 呀媽無返工留系做家務, 老婆就又要返工又要做家務, 做女時要比家用, 做老婆重要幫手養家, 男人就剩係指意女人做, 做女都好過做老婆架, 又出錢又出力重要嫌出得少





    b. 咁咪in proportion囉, 咁男人分擔乜呀?煮餐飯連買送洗碗要幾多功夫時間? 拎袋垃圾出後門又要幾多功夫時間?





    c.你唔出世咪唔使系度怨囉 





    d.你想出錢要人聽曬你話重有樣叫’傭人’可以滿足你,唔使北上,人工可能平過比上面家用,成本效益一定高好多, 唔岩可以抄,無責任養佢一世



  • a. 呀媽無返工留系做家務, 老婆就又要返工又要做家務, 做女時要比家用, 做老婆重要幫手養家, 男人就剩係指意女人做, 做女都好過做老婆架, 又出錢又出力重要嫌出得少


    b. 咁咪in proportion囉, 咁男人分擔乜呀?煮餐飯連買送洗碗要幾多功夫時間? 拎袋垃圾出後門又要幾多功夫時間?


    c. 你唔出世咪唔使系度怨囉


    d. 你想出錢要人聽曬你話重有樣叫’傭人’可以滿足你,唔使北上,人工可能平過比上面家用,成本效益一定高好多,唔岩可以抄,無責任養佢一世


    e. 不過有一點你未回應,你覺得蝕底可以唔結婚架! 港女唔要港男, 港男大可另作他人選.問題係,而家邊邊催婚多呢請問? 咁蝕底仲結婚黎托呀? 呢個世界好現實,睇下邊個靠邊個多囉!



  • 你講左咁耐到未解釋你expect D乜同願意付出D乜.





    by 呢個世界好現實 - 02/14/07 11:59





    Is my decision important to you? It is meaningless to tell you what i expect and what i can affort / willing to pay. My goal is to find my other half (which is found) and treat him good, not YOU.





    Also, getting along is quite complicated... if a wife do all the house work, cook good meals for her husband etc... it does not mean that she treat him good, does not mean that she cares about him... because those all work can be done by servant.





    d. 北上唔一定召妓既, 娶老婆都可以講成本同回報. 係呀!上面D女人係洗男人錢呀!但我地洗得值呀!你地值咩?





    by 呢個世界好現實 - 02/14/07 11:59





    Basically, I do agree the mathematical logic you mentioned above... But... If you and your wife's relation is build on $. If you married her because you can affort to pay her $... due to living standard different from HK and China...





    I'm so sorry for you.





    人地出多D錢, 你出多D力, 呢D係天經地義.





    明冇?





    by 呢個世界好現實 - 02/14/07 12:02





    Agree. But in some case, both husband and wife are working. If you wife earn more than you, will you 出多D力 for house work... etc.?



  • a. 大家咁話啦, 你呀媽都唔係要幫你做一世, 如果你係指我的話, 我不嬲做曬d家務我媽無做架喎





    b. 你咁既態度直情永不錄用啦, 況且我講緊公一份婆一份呀, 老婆都可以抄個老公





    c. 生左出黎無得收番入去呀嘛





    d. 我由頭到尾都講"公一份婆一份"呀, "出錢出力"呀, 你駁乜呀? 係你要社會幫你個大陸老婆養仔, 唔係我呀





    e. 我一定唔會蝕比你喎, 香港係男人比例少但唔係剩得你一個呀嘛, 你系度影衰d港男咋! 有修養既先唔會好似你咁










  • arlene





    Agree.



  • Agree. But in some case, both husband and wife are working. If you wife earn more than you, will you 出多D力 for house work... etc.?





    by haha - 02/14/07 14:12





    搞清楚一點先,佢earn幾多唔係重點,家庭開支佢contribute幾多先係重點.





    如果佢肯出多d,我做多d家務有咩所謂?我後生時一個人去台灣住左3年,咪又係自己一個人做曬!你估你D港女肯做少少家務就有寶呀?



  • 你憑乜表全香港男人, 你肯就全港男人都肯呀? 況且呢版係講要contribute既女人, 你老婆唔肯contribute關其他女人乜事? 係咪人地個老公滾可以出氣落你度? 係咪香港有男人食軟飯d女人就可以求其搵個男人鬧?



  • c. 生左出黎無得收番入去呀嘛








    你都幾厚面皮喎! 而家有人叫你生仔咩? 你又生左喇咩? 蛋都冇生一隻,你拎咩同人講條件呀?








    你憑乜表全香港男人, 你肯就全港男人都肯呀? (咁你又問?) 況且呢版係講要contribute既女人, 你老婆唔肯contribute關其他女人乜事(而家人地咪問緊你肯唔肯囉! 你敢唔敢答先)? 係咪人地個老公滾可以出氣落你度? 係咪香港有男人食軟飯d女人就可以求其搵個男人鬧? (可以架! 你咪試下囉! )





    by lizzy - 02/14/07 18:37







  • 呢個世界好現實





    I'm so sorry that you must have your other 1/2 who doesn't want to contrubite to the family....





    But you are such a calculating person... you will never be satisify and be happy.





    But remember, this is your experience only... not for ALL HK ladies.



  • 唔係有同感我就應該第一句鬧版主係傻既, 做乜要同人捱, 而唔係話個顛佬人地講緊出錢出力你重鬧人又食又拎





    我先無你咁變態係又鬧唔係又鬧, 女人發蠻都夠乞人憎, 你男人之家好似潑婦罵街咁, 香港好男人水平咪就係咁被你拉低囉



  • 算吧啦, 呢的成日只係在she.com嘈生曬o既男人好可憐.


    無謂浪費時間同佢地message啦!




  • 你班八婆日嘈夜嘈就唔可憐.



  • on9 懲戒男, 扮咩能野ar, 改alias唔敢用nickname ar? 邊個夠你咁有heart咁鐘意收集同post潮文?


    講野態度, 措詞, 連思維都一能樣, 當人白痴ga?


    你唔只一次ga la, 上次俾人踢爆左無聲出la, 你條雞蟲一直有睇呢度, 轉個頭張d post post過去高登度俾人發現左....正一過街老鼠, haha




  • 其實我係懲戒男, haha




  • on9 懲戒男, 扮咩能野ar, 改alias唔敢用nickname ar? 邊個夠你咁有heart咁鐘意收集同post潮文?


    講野態度, 措詞, 連思維都一能樣, 當人白痴ga?


    你唔只一次ga la, 上次俾人踢爆左無聲出la, 你條雞蟲一直有睇呢度, 轉個頭張d post post過去高登度俾人發現左....正一過街老鼠, haha



  • 其實我係懲戒男, haha





    by 過街老鼠 - 02/15/07 22:09



  • 出一個post d分身即刻出現力撐, wakaka




  • 其實我係Bobo2, wakaka



  • on9 懲戒男, 扮咩能野ar, 改alias唔敢用nickname ar? 邊個夠你咁有heart咁鐘意收集同post潮文?


    講野態度, 措詞, 連思維都一能樣, 當人白痴ga?


    你唔只一次ga la, 上次俾人踢爆左無聲出la, 你條雞蟲一直有睇呢度, 轉個頭張d post post過去高登度俾人發現左....正一過街老鼠, haha





    以上既係我寫既, 出一個post, 心虛既"某人"即現身, wakaka



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